What exactly are they asking for?
They didn't say it clearly, but 4 apps received a UGC warning with only 7 days to fix it. After that, apps are removed.
I guess, that they want a login block.
I wrote to them, for knowing what exactly. And I also explained how Fediverse works and how it is useless.
I mentioned that the app has everything to block/mute users or instances.
@fedilab @FdC I'm much in favour to make users know what they are doing, as I worry many do not fully understand what of their posted content is visible for whom. I would be happy to see (in-app!) really clear help+guides to give users all the info to make sure they know what they're doing - it's such transparency which makes FOSS differ from the shady "social" networks. OK, and we yet lack a seamless transition from public fedi to protected E2E encrypted networks...
So you are the app that does not block #gab?
And now #google kicks you out?
So actually google takes a strong stand to protect marginalized people ( who are the main target of hate ) , while #fedilab and #fdroid choose ( I guess? ) to "keep away from politics" , which is not posible, just supports the status qou.
I never thought I would side with google and against f-droid, but this might just be that moment!
@El_joa @fedilab @FdC
1. This isn't the only app that doesn't block Gab, and I'm not even sure if there are Gab-blocking apps that have been targeted or non-Gab blocking apps that haven't.
2. Gab, last I checked, hasn't been accessible via ActivityPub, so the apps shouldn't work anyway in accessing it.
3. Google is being sufficiently vague that we have no idea what the precise issue is. It could be a "you-need-to-block-every-instance-we-don't-like" for all we know.
4. Even if it is about Gab, this is a dangerous precedent. By the same logic, Google could implement a site blacklist in Chrome and force all other browsers to comply with their block or be kicked from the Play store.
While I do understand this, I paid for this app. I'm not sure if I want to add f-droid to this phone, never used it before. I hope Google will be of help.
Whatever decision you end up making, thanks for your efforts so far. I've been enjoying the app and it was/is worth the money that I've paid for it. <3
For me is absolutely great to not have people commenting "This app is a fake!" on a X-Ray Scanner app for pranks. Without mentioning the Google analytics code they put on each app on the Play Store seems like doesn't exists on F-Droid.
I think there are another apps that can be used to open F-Droid, and also you can add repositories to have more apps available.
I don't know I just use it to download all the apps I need from it and that's it. That, the updates and ungoogle my device are the only three features I was looking for.
Sooner of later, this would happen. Don't give up.
@fedilab Why are you so committed to helping nazis organize?
May I ask whats your problem with someone providing an Android App for using the fediverse instance you like?
Or more polemic: Would you like to shut down the internet and everything else that is a possible plattform for nazis?
Probably you think about how it must be for the developer. Everytime your app is highlighted a discussion starts about helping or beeing a nazi.
The developer is making is work open source and transparent I highly appreciat that.
A more apt comparison would be: If a private bus company revised their routing specifically to allow armed terrorists to attack protesters, would it be wrong to support that bus company? Obviously, the answer would be yes
@evenstay @fedilab not quite. There's no sane way of blocking undesired individuals from the fediverse. One can launch a new instance in less than 10 minutes. It's simply not feasible to have an instance block list. Not only that, an otherwise normal instance, let's say the one you're on, could end up on such a list simply because a single individual toots something the list maintainers find undesirable. Mastodon provides many ways of filtering undesirables, that functionality should be used.
Obviously, I got too fast on that matter. At this time, I was scared to get my app banned.
Then, I clearly released that was not my job. I prefered to add tools like import/export/share an instance block list.
That's a powerful tool and far for being symbolic like an useless instance block.
What about email, browser apps so? Are they your next targets?
@evenstay @fedilab @nvsr
If Google want to ban fascists then why don't they should delist all Cloudflare-servers from their search results, because it's Cloudflare that serve the sites that actually indoctrinate kids and disaffected twenty-somethings into becoming extremists.
Gab, chans, infowars etc.
While we are here Google should ban Israel for their continual theft of Palestinian land.
But no. Unbiased Fedilab must go.
Google Serves Nazis
@evenstay @fedilab @nvsr Of course, gab is so disgusting as a whole that it seems a must to ban it. Other mastodon client did so, with the effect to get forked by Nazis to patch the block out again. The only persistent way is to enable and teach users to use blocking, and thus be individually in control independent of app or site admin (as long as the server component is sane).
1 - They block [that instance]
2 - [that instance] forks Tusky
3 - Users who want to use [that instance] jump from Tusky to Tusky's fork.
What benefit did it have? No one. Developers just lost the time, lost some users, fragmented the project and absolutely nothing was accomplished, because users can still log into the instance with Tusky, only that it's not called Tusky but it's still the same code...
I used to think that way, too but I learned otherwise:
On 2. Those nazis fork tusky. This takes them time and resources, which they then cant use to target people with their hate.
But don't take it from me - I'm actually not a target ( I'm white and otherwise full of #privilege as well ). Instead, do ask your BIPoC friends on this issue! Their voices should count!
@El_joa @evenstay @fedilab @nvsr But things don't end here, Nazis instances can still be created and Tusky's devs would need to hunt them and return to 1. But this time, Nazis already did 2., so the only ones losing their time are the devs. And ineffectively because, as mentioned, a block from an application doesn't prevent users from becoming a target. Only instances to instances blocks or user to instances block are effective for that, things that Fedilab already has and doesn't plan to drop.
But it seems like it can't connect to the instance I'm using. I filled in 'x0f.org', but got 'Unable to connect to instance domain!'
Do you know what could be the problem? (It's a private instance; no public registration option)
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